Author Topic: Guns (Read 3051 times)

German_Girl · « **Reply #25 on:** July 30, 2012 at 11:05 AM »

It's not the weapon or the gun that's dangerous.It's the human being.A gun doesn't work by itself.

Dagmar · « **Reply #26 on:** July 30, 2012 at 12:24 PM »

True but should it be so easy for those people who kill to purchase a gun?

Trina, good article. I could not agree more. And I'm with Bryanna that it's actually sad that people call it freedom because they can own guns that do serious damage when in the wrong hands. And let's face it, when it's easy to purchase a gun, it's easy to fall into the wrong hands. Much easier then when there are stricter laws on this.

Haven't there been studies on the fact that stricter laws on guns actually decrease the amount of tragedies where guns are used? I think I read something about that but I have no clue where....I'll try and find that.
Freedom, in my opinion, is not the ability to own a gun.
And I know people will be saying "We should be able to defend ourselves". Sure you are, but that's still possible with stricter laws. Besides the more people own guns, more protection needed I think. Because there will be a bigger chance that one of those owners has less then honerable intentions. Does that make sense?

anyway long story short, I'm glad it's more difficult to own a gun in my country. That doesn't mean nothing ever goes wrong because only last year we had terrible tragedy, but still the chances are slimmer with guncontrol if you ask me.

fmm412 · « **Reply #27 on:** August 04, 2012 at 07:26 PM »

People like to say "ohh, but we have the 2nd amendment!" and all that junk. But honestly, if you look into it a lot of people will say the 2nd amendment actually refers to the National Guard. So yeah.

Washington D.C. has some of the strictest gun laws here in America, and I think I read something somewhere that showed how crime rates are extremely low there because of it. I dont trust people with guns, but at least I trust people (even criminals) to follow the law in places where guns are harder to get.

I understand why someone might want a gun to protect themselves from bad guys... but thats why we have the police. The Supreme Court even ruled that the police have a constitutional duty to protect people from harm. Guns arent really needed for self protection, only cops need them.

Also, all of this with guns applies to drugs also. People with guns do bad things to people, so we need to make it harder for people to get guns. Likewise, people with drugs often do bad things to people, so we need to make it harder for people to buy drugs. If I were a mayor, or some sort of government official, I would work to make guns and drugs illegal as much as possible for people's safety.

German_Girl · « **Reply #28 on:** August 05, 2012 at 04:17 PM »

I think it is nearly impossible to make it harder for people to get guns.They'll always find a way to get them.

Dagmar · « **Reply #29 on:** August 05, 2012 at 04:24 PM »

Actually it's possible.
There is only a small group of people who will go through illegal routes.
Which would mean that if laws become stricter less people will be able to get their hands on guns.

The illegal cirquit is always going to be around. It has always been around. But people who resort to that usually don't have the right intentions...otherwise they'd go through the legal routes.

fmm412 · « **Reply #30 on:** August 05, 2012 at 07:27 PM »

Quote from: Dagmar on August 05, 2012 at 04:24 PM

The illegal cirquit is always going to be around. It has always been around. But people who resort to that usually don't have the right intentions...otherwise they'd go through the legal routes.

Dagmar is right on the money here. By making guns illegal, the only people to get them (the illegal route) would be people who have bad intentions, aka criminals. "Normal" people who still have a fantasy of needing guns to protect themselves from criminals will not be able to get them, because there is no legal route that they will go through to get them, which is a good thing because it means there are less people with guns running around.

kaitlyn.23 · « **Reply #31 on:** August 05, 2012 at 11:43 PM »

I just returned home from the US (I'm moving to Cali at the end of the month from Vancouver BC) and I was so shocked at how many people had guns and knives ON HAND while they were out and about. I only saw one man with a gun strapped to his belt. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I never see that where I live here in Vancouver. I understand protecting yourself but in my opinion, the thought of people carrying guns frightens me. My cousin and her husband own four guns and it terrified me staying in their house. I can't explain why. I know they'd never shoot me. It's having such a deadly weapon. I feel like only official authorities (police etc) should be allowed gun access, OR when you're at a shooting range (which I occasionally enjoy doing, heading out to the range when I'm pissed off, which probably contradicts what I just said but it's true). I don't even know what the gun laws here in Canada are. I just know, or think I know, that people owning guns is more prominent in the US.

Am I making any sense? Those are just my thoughts. I'm not really educated on gun laws or anything so I apologize for sounding dumb.

Growing up, we had a gun (it was not usable, it was old old old and was merely a "decoration", it was my great-grandfathers) and it terrified me. Terrified me to pieces. My mom hates guns too and when my dad moved out she finally got rid of it.

I just hate how easily accessible guns seem to be. It's so nerve racking. Christ, you can't even go to a damn movie without worrying about your safety. It's so sad.

sophiagurl87 · « **Reply #32 on:** August 06, 2012 at 03:10 PM »

When i first heard about the movie theater shooting i was shocked and i was so mad because i was thinking why would a guy go into a movie theater and shoot up the whole place and kill some people and i think he was nuts for what he did

kaitlyn.23 · « **Reply #33 on:** August 06, 2012 at 07:48 PM »

He is nuts. It's completely unacceptable, so, so tragic. I have some family in that area too, I was so scared when I heard about what happened. So thankful they're all okay, but my heart is broken for all those families who suffered a great loss.

sophiagurl87 · « **Reply #34 on:** August 07, 2012 at 07:45 AM »

I'm so mad that he did that

Sema · « **Reply #35 on:** August 24, 2012 at 09:03 PM »

Quote from: fmm412 on August 04, 2012 at 07:26 PM

Also, all of this with guns applies to drugs also. People with guns do bad things to people, so we need to make it harder for people to get guns. Likewise, people with drugs often do bad things to people, so we need to make it harder for people to buy drugs. If I were a mayor, or some sort of government official, I would work to make guns and drugs illegal as much as possible for people's safety.

this makes absolutely no sense to me.

Callum. · « **Reply #36 on:** August 31, 2012 at 02:33 PM »

I think it's fairly obvious by the amount of shootings there are that America needs to sort out it's gun laws.

kaitlyn.23 · « **Reply #37 on:** September 09, 2012 at 03:22 AM »

Clearly.

Seriously. I was watching a show the other day about Alaska State Troopers, and how they always had to be prepared when entering someones home because almost everyone in Alaska is armed. It was frightening. I was in Texas quite a few months back, and while in the mall, I witnessed a man with a gun strapped to his belt. He wasn't an authority, to my knowledge. I asked my aunt about it, expressing my discomfort, and she told me that was normal!? How is that normal, in a mall, is that legal, can somebody clarify this? It scared the daylights out of me.

I feel like the least they could do is run a mental health check on someone before they're allowed to own a gun. I don't know how things work when you purchase a gun. I really don't.

sophiagurl87 · « **Reply #38 on:** October 10, 2012 at 08:42 AM »

That's a horrible story that you told Kaitlyn

HaleyScott23 · « **Reply #39 on:** December 15, 2012 at 06:01 AM »

Just saw this on Twitter and thought it'd be appropriate:

sophiagurl87 · « **Reply #40 on:** December 15, 2012 at 07:27 AM »

I can't believe there was two shootings right before Christmas

goodah · « **Reply #41 on:** March 11, 2013 at 11:00 AM »

guns don't kill people. if they dont why should we stop having them? people are the ones who need to change.

kaitlyn.23 · « **Reply #42 on:** April 03, 2013 at 11:14 PM »

I agree with that, Goodah. What I think needs to change at this point is how accessible they are in certain areas. I hate to be negative, but ultimately, whatever happens - if somebody is crazy and determined enough, they'll get their hands on a firearm. But there are higher measures that we can take to make it harder for them.

That being said, it's unnecessary to have such big, excessive guns. It's just not. You can protect yourself with a handgun. I respect the right to your own personal security, it's not for me, but I realize that for many people it's a huge deal. I grew up in a different environment, although simply over the border, things are in fact a lot different in Vancouver and most of Canada in comparison to the United States, so to me, the whole "must have the right to bare arms" just doesn't apply.

I said before, I think, that only authorities should be allowed guns, and in all honesty, that's my fantasy world - but obviously, that's not going to happen in the US. That's not realistic, whatsoever. You have a right, and so you should have it, but there should be some limitations.

German_Girl · « **Reply #43 on:** May 05, 2013 at 02:44 AM »

Quote from: goodah on March 11, 2013 at 11:00 AM

guns don't kill people. if they dont why should we stop having them? people are the ones who need to change.

I agree that the human being needs to change,because a gun doesn't work by its self,but I also think that there is cleary something wrong in your community when people don't feel save anymore without a gun in their household.

I don't need one to feel safe here and the same goes for the rest of the German community.

What is even more mind-boggling to me is that many Americans seem to think that they NEED a gun to feel save,when in my pov it's the total opposite of it.I've heard about three cases in the last 5 weeks,where little kids "accidentely" killed their siblings with a gun they've found in the bedroom of their parents.The latest case was even more ridicilous...a gun of the type "Cricett." A gun especially made for kids?How insane is that?Sick even...eww...

5 year old from Cumberland,Kentucky killed his 2 year old sister because he found the gun in the corner of the living-room.The parents said that they had no idea that there was still a bullet in it.

Sorry...but when I read things like that I'm more than glad to live here and not in the U.S.Sorry but that's just sick.

alibi · « **Reply #44 on:** May 05, 2013 at 06:09 AM »

Amen to that, German_Girl.

I feel so sorry for the kid that killed his sister, he'll have to live with the guilt for the rest of his life. It's his parents' fault, for having loaded guns lying around the house. So irresponsible.